Mauro y Flavia Bergoglio en la Basílica de San Pedro, en el Vaticano, este jueves.

He cardenal Gherard Ludwig Müllerone of the referents of the traditionalist wing of the Church, considers that with the death of the Papa Francisco An era concludes. “A chapter in the history of the Church has ended. Clearly the last judgment corresponds to God, we cannot judge people. But if we talk about his pontificate, there are different opinions, “he says in a conversation withLa Repubblica.

In another interview, this time granted to The TimesMüller has been even more scathing and has come to suggest that Francisco has been a heretic pontiff. The Pope, he says, “must be orthodox, neither liberal nor conservative.”

“The question is not between conservatives and liberals, but between orthodoxy and heresy. I pray for the Holy Spirit to illuminate the cardinals, because A Pope heretic that changes every day Depending on what the media say it would be catastrophic, “he said.

The German purple is one of the most heard voices by the conservative currents of the curia and opponents of Francisco, with a past like Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faiththe former Holy Office.

After the death of the Argentine pontiff, Müller will participate in the conclave To choose a successor, since he is under 80 years old, 77, which enables him as a voter in the Sistine Chapel.

The cardinal has also criticized some of Francisco’s decisions, such asl agreement with communist China That, since 2018, it allows the appointment of bishops in a consensual manner between Rome and Beijing even though they do not maintain diplomatic relations.

“Agreements with these powerful dictators must be reached but we cannot betray the principles of our faith, we cannot accept that atheist communists, enemies of humanity, write our catechism books or take to the churches Images of Xi Jinping. You can’t make pacts with the devil“Defend.

On Francisco’s decision to allow the blessing of homosexual couples, informally, Müller believes that the next Pope “must clarify it” and that that measure “It was obviously contrary to the doctrine of the churchesa”.

“The document approved in Francisco’s pontificate wanted to help these people pastorally, but The Catholic doctrine of marriage should not be relativized“He claims.

He has also lashed out against his idea of ​​including lay and secular In the meetings of the Synod of Bishops, granting them even for the first time the possibility of voting their official documents.

Bishops have an authority that should not be confused with the possibility of all baptized speaking. It is a symposium, legitimate, but it is not a synod (…) The wrong thing is to confuse the Church with a political organization, “he says.

In addition, he contradicted Francisco’s commitment to Put, for the first time, women at the head of the Vatican dicasteries“The problem is not the woman, but a layman called to preside over what was previously a congregation, which was previously the expression of the authority of the Cardinal College,” he says.

On Islam, religion with which Francisco had bridges, Cardinal Müller is severe. “We can dialogue with them: they respect certain principles of natural ethics and believe in God in their own way. But we must ask ourselves how it is possible that someone who believes in God, creator of all men, can kill in your name. Dialogue yes, but avoid all forms of relativism, “he says.

On the future position of the cardinals in the conclave, Müller ends up claiming that “everyone must remember” that the Church “It is not an international humanitarian and social organization“.” This pleases many secularized people, the elite, the oligarchs, who would want a Pope as a symbol of their religion. But the Pope is not a symbol of a secularized religion, “he concludes.